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Poll Results: opnion on gay marriage
yes 34 53.97%
no 29 46.03%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll.

April 6th, 2013
Lol it's not a basic human righ to get married. If they truly want to get married then they can go to another country but no, they insist on changing the sacred ideal of heterosexual marriage which, might I add has been like that since the beginning of the mankind. Obviously it's worked this far, why change it? I'm just mad there was not a "OH HELL NO!!!" Option on the poll.

All i'm going to say is your too into that religion.. =P Christianity or whatever i mean i'm a god believer but Idc whether a guy and guy get married or girl and girl.. And you know why? Because its none of my business what those people do and how they live there lives so you really have no right to judge them on any circumstance. OH HELL NO comment<--- i didn't like at all, it was rude and inconsiderate. But i really can't judge you because you only say what you were taught so its not entirely your fault
April 6th, 2013
Lol I find it kind of funny how a lot of ppl fight against same sex marriage. Yet not so long ago in many societies women were considered not capable of love. And were only seen by society as a reproduction mean. And all men had a male lover because it represented your status in society.
I think Socrates wrote a book about it. Had to read it in philosophy. Any how.
I voted yes. Every one should have the same chance to be happy as long as it doesnt hurt some one else.
April 6th, 2013
I'm sorry to hear that. And you have a good day as well jak and you too jax.



Actually that's what it was intended to be but free will is our choice. So I see where you are coming from.



No need to become judge mental and start name calling. I understand that yes, some cultures in the past did accept it. But tell me, what happened to every single one of those cultures? You do realize that back in the day if you didn't follow those set laws, you were killed. That's how strongly they believed in them. It's against my religion and I don't think it should be instituted in America. That's my opinion I'm sorry most of you don't feel that way but my opinion's not gonna change because of what you believe. There, I've said my point and now I'm done with this thread it's frustrating me.

Being a Christian is loving everyone without discrimination. I would know, because I have been raised as one since birth. It's not an institution. Marriage is an institution, and if we are going to bar things from America I would start with marriage so that people can no longer hold this over homosexual's heads. I would much rather do away with marriage than do away with the basic American principle that EVERYONE IS AFFORDED THE SAME RIGHTS.

If you tell someone else they cannot marry someone, they should be able to tell you the same.

You don't get to pick and choose people. Jesus accepted in the prostitutes and the unwedded, he accepted everyone. I used to love being a Christian, but every day Christians/The Prejudiced like you make it a battle for me to even defend the rights of the ones I care about. As an American/Christian, you should be defending other Americans rights with the most fervent passion, which includes the gays.

The truth is that you'd rather have those people go away than have to deal with them, or be willing to change your views AGAIN like when we stopped allowing people to beat women, keep slaves/indentured servants, or discriminate based on nonsense(all in the bible as biblical law).

The only thing I will apologize for is if I wrongly assumed you to be Christian, and not another religion that disapproves of gay people.

Last edited on April 6th, 2013 at 11:36 AM.
April 6th, 2013
I voted No, because I am against Gays and Gay Marriages.

Does it bother me? No. But what does bother me is the band wagons and the individuals who spit in the faces of their own families just because they want to be different.The disrespect for their own bloodline irks my nerves a bit. I remember back in the late 80s, early 90s when homosexuals weren't really heard of at all. Didn't really make a peep in the world til the mid 2000s. Why? This is just for attention.

Yes it bothers me that they want to get married. They already have the right to be together, in public even. They already get to vote so what really do they have to complain about?

What? You gonna pull the whole "Live and let live" motto out your ass? My answer to that is NO! In my country the good ole US of A our flag color is RED, WHITE, BLUE and GOLD (for the stars). That flag stands for Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, and that didn't include homosexuals (My thoughts). And reading some of these comments about letting them have kids just infuriates me. Why would you give the product of a straight couple to a gay couple who want to be different? It's ridiculous. That's like giving some random noob 100 million zeni for just talking a good game. It's beyond me why some of you guys are for this crap.

Call me homophobic, call me what you want. I'm an asshole but I'm a honest asshole at that. I don't care for religion at all, nor do I care for politics. But what I do care for on a grand scale is Logic, Morality, The Moral Compass, and Science.

Now before any of you go and try to compare gays to animals, let me add a little kicker to your thesis there.

Gays have thinking brains, opposable thumbs and they can talk (A little too damn much if you ask me). Animals don't really think, they go off trail and error. The only animal close to having opposable thumbs and thinking brains are chimps and apes. And the only difference between humans and apes is cooked food. Yea, watch Animal Planet, you'll learn that. So gays have no excuse other than being narcissistic cannibals, just like vegetarians.

I shouldn't even have to mention that marriage is between a Man and a woman at this point. Where the hell do you think CHILDREN come from!? You sure as hell can't rub two sticks together and make them, nor can you mash two tacos together and get em either. So what the hell?

This has been a message from Majaku, The God Damn Batman aka Black Cawk "It's not gonna suck it's self dammit"

dude there might be something wrong with you might be a homophobic and might as well be have some bad experience or some bad influence around you that make you think about this sad too because you have homophobia

Ok, first off.

I don't know your sister, nor do I care for her well being for that matter. Now that we got that out the way. Did you even read anything of my that one logical post of mine? Or did you just do the obvious thing and skim through it?

And as for your "Bloodline" question, yes, I do know it. My descendants are from Eygpt and parts of Northern Russia. Although I am an African American, those are were my roots come from. But back to the topic at hand, no one spit in the face of their families because they wanted to be different.

I still yet to see any real logical reason why gays should be allowed to marry or have children of/from straight couples other than the whole Bandwagon bid going on in this topic.

My question is simple, "Why should they?"

OKwith that saying you have a royal bloodline i can't be impress from where your descendants had came from i will understand why you don't want boys to be married to other boys because of the mother Russian in you which isn't great also since you are part Egyptian you should read this http://www.dailyegyptian.com/supreme...#axzz2PhygNQTa
and you should try to spell better next time when you write a post just pointing that out
here a song that should fit your bloodline trait too

Last edited on April 6th, 2013 at 01:25 PM. Reason: Double Post
April 6th, 2013
Does it bother me? No. But what does bother me is the band wagons and the individuals who spit in the faces of their own families just because they want to be different.The disrespect for their own bloodline irks my nerves a bit. I remember back in the late 80s, early 90s when homosexuals weren't really heard of at all. Didn't really make a peep in the world til the mid 2000s. Why? This is just for attention.

You know, every single thing you just wrote could apply to the women's and civil rights movements. Obviously, before the early 1900s, women were all good housewives until they all jumped on the bandwagon and decided they wanted the same rights as men. All of these black folks never made a ruckus before Rosa Parks decided she didn't want to get up off her seat. So why should we change now?

The thing is, homosexuality (generally) isn't about attention. If it were about attention, there wouldn't be so many people who were nervous about mentioning their own sexuality. There would be more people "out of the closet" so to speak. It's oppression, and it's no different from any other rights movement America has had.

Yes it bothers me that they want to get married. They already have the right to be together, in public even. They already get to vote so what really do they have to complain about?

Gays are often looked down upon when giving public displays of affection anyway, so even if they do have the right, it's not the same as the way straight folk have it. The fact that they're not allowed to get married is a right given to every other American that's barred from them and makes them less than any other citizen in that department.

What? You gonna pull the whole "Live and let live" motto out your ass? My answer to that is NO! In my country the good ole US of A our flag color is RED, WHITE, BLUE and GOLD (for the stars). That flag stands for Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, and that didn't include homosexuals (My thoughts). And reading some of these comments about letting them have kids just infuriates me. Why would you give the product of a straight couple to a gay couple who want to be different? It's ridiculous. That's like giving some random noob 100 million zeni for just talking a good game. It's beyond me why some of you guys are for this crap.

I'm American too, and maybe you didn't realize this, but the founding fathers created this to be a nation of equity and tolerance for the beliefs and customs of other individuals. Maybe they didn't have gay folks in mind when they made America America -- but they didn't have women or blacks in the same boat either. A country like America was made to be flexible with its political policies and adapt to changing times. Times today are a'changin', and we need to remember that our country wasn't founded on dogmatic, closed-minded opinions.

And by the way, the stars on the American flag are white.

Call me homophobic, call me what you want. I'm an asshole but I'm a honest asshole at that. I don't care for religion at all, nor do I care for politics. But what I do care for on a grand scale is Logic, Morality, The Moral Compass, and Science.

Now before any of you go and try to compare gays to animals, let me add a little kicker to your thesis there.

Gays have thinking brains, opposable thumbs and they can talk (A little too damn much if you ask me). Animals don't really think, they go off trail and error. The only animal close to having opposable thumbs and thinking brains are chimps and apes. And the only difference between humans and apes is cooked food. Yea, watch Animal Planet, you'll learn that. So gays have no excuse other than being narcissistic cannibals, just like vegetarians.

I don't even think you know what you're talking about with your scientific analogy here. Animals are much more intelligent than we give them credit for, and apes aren't the only species that can think. Most species of fish are self-aware and capable of problem-solving and learning. Elephants mourn their dead. Dolphins are arguably smarter than apes.

Also, chimps are species of ape -- apes are classified as the subfamily hominoidae, and Animal Planet has been a load of crap since Steve Erwin died. Vegetarianism, unlike homosexuality, is a choice, not a psychological trait, and they have every right in the world to not eat meat if they so please, provided they're not forcing their doctrines on anyone else.

I shouldn't even have to mention that marriage is between a Man and a woman at this point. Where the hell do you think CHILDREN come from!? You sure as hell can't rub two sticks together and make them, nor can you mash two tacos together and get em either. So what the hell?

This has been a message from Majaku, The God Damn Batman aka Black Cawk "It's not gonna suck it's self dammit"

If we're going to bring nature into this, I should mention that children don't always result from a man and woman. In whiptailed lizards, several species that are made entirely of females, individuals have offspring alone, and stimulate their sexual organs by engaging in courtship behavior with other females. In short, lesbian lizards. Slugs and snails are generally both genders and they mate with others of the same species that share that trait.

Also, marriage isn't necessarily related to reproduction anyway -- it's a sociological matter. If it were solely related to marriage, we wouldn't have so many children these days born out of wedlock, nor would we allow women past menopause to marry. I don't see how that could possibly be used as an argument against gay marriage.

Good day sir.

Lol it's not a basic human righ to get married. If they truly want to get married then they can go to another country but no, they insist on changing the sacred ideal of heterosexual marriage which, might I add has been like that since the beginning of the mankind. Obviously it's worked this far, why change it? I'm just mad there was not a "OH HELL NO!!!" Option on the poll.

Marriage itself hasn't been around since the beginning of mankind. There's a lot of doubt that humans were even monogamous before the beginning of organized civilization, and the fact that many early cultures weren't monotheistic supports it. Many animals in nature, primates included, also behave in homosexual behavior.

Like I mentioned, though, if churches refuse to marry homosexuals, that's within the churchs' rights, as it may go against their religious beliefs. But marriage itself is not longer a sacred ideal.

Marriage is intended to be a sacred bond between a man and a women as god made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So ya it would be changing that sacred idea and that states that they have right to marriage, I don't even think you should call it marriage of its not a man and a woman so I don't see how it helps you.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/marriage

I don't believe in Adam and Eve, so why should I care?

My question is simple, "Why should they?"

Why shouldn't they is more so the question here. Gays are every bit as human as we are and should have a right to engage in the same social practices as us.

Side Note: About a month ago, I officially renounced my religious beliefs, in case anyone was wondering why I seem to suddenly be an atheist. My reasons are largely personal and will not be mentioned on the forums.
April 6th, 2013
You don't have to support gay people or gay marriage. You don't even need to accept not respect it. All you need to do is look the other way if you dislike it. I've seen countless gay people in the village in NYC, yes Ofc some people I hang out with call them names and harass them but I just look the other way.

Judging or talking about something that you can't benefit off of is a complete waste if time.
April 6th, 2013
This thread....
April 6th, 2013
You don't have to support gay people or gay marriage. You don't even need to accept not respect it. All you need to do is look the other way if you dislike it. I've seen countless gay people in the village in NYC, yes Ofc some people I hang out with call them names and harass them but I just look the other way.

Judging or talking about something that you can't benefit off of is a complete waste if time.

true story ^^^^^ all the way =3333
April 7th, 2013
You don't have to support gay people or gay marriage. You don't even need to accept not respect it. All you need to do is look the other way if you dislike it. I've seen countless gay people in the village in NYC, yes Ofc some people I hang out with call them names and harass them but I just look the other way.

Judging or talking about something that you can't benefit off of is a complete waste if time.

How can you see if someone is gay ? That is completely stereotypical , unless they are kissing each other in public.
April 7th, 2013
How can you see if someone is gay ? That is completely stereotypical , unless they are kissing each other in public.

You can't always tell, but sometimes its very obvious. Like the time I was in the mall and there were these 2 guys dressed like pink unicorns. They were talking and giggling like schoolgirls.

I could be wrong though, maybe they lost a bet.