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Does it bother me? No. But what does bother me is the band wagons and the individuals who spit in the faces of their own families just because they want to be different.The disrespect for their own bloodline irks my nerves a bit. I remember back in the late 80s, early 90s when homosexuals weren't really heard of at all. Didn't really make a peep in the world til the mid 2000s. Why? This is just for attention.
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You know, every single thing you just wrote could apply to the women's and civil rights movements. Obviously, before the early 1900s, women were all good housewives until they all jumped on the bandwagon and decided they wanted the same rights as men. All of these black folks never made a ruckus before Rosa Parks decided she didn't want to get up off her seat. So why should we change now?
The thing is, homosexuality (generally) isn't about attention. If it were about attention, there wouldn't be so many people who were nervous about mentioning their own sexuality. There would be more people "out of the closet" so to speak. It's oppression, and it's no different from any other rights movement America has had.
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Yes it bothers me that they want to get married. They already have the right to be together, in public even. They already get to vote so what really do they have to complain about?
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Gays are often looked down upon when giving public displays of affection anyway, so even if they do have the right, it's not the same as the way straight folk have it. The fact that they're not allowed to get married is a right given to every other American that's barred from them and makes them less than any other citizen in that department.
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What? You gonna pull the whole "Live and let live" motto out your ass? My answer to that is NO! In my country the good ole US of A our flag color is RED, WHITE, BLUE and GOLD (for the stars). That flag stands for Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, and that didn't include homosexuals (My thoughts). And reading some of these comments about letting them have kids just infuriates me. Why would you give the product of a straight couple to a gay couple who want to be different? It's ridiculous. That's like giving some random noob 100 million zeni for just talking a good game. It's beyond me why some of you guys are for this crap.
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I'm American too, and maybe you didn't realize this, but the founding fathers created this to be a nation of equity and tolerance for the beliefs and customs of other individuals. Maybe they didn't have gay folks in mind when they made America America -- but they didn't have women or blacks in the same boat either. A country like America was made to be flexible with its political policies and adapt to changing times. Times today are a'changin', and we need to remember that our country wasn't founded on dogmatic, closed-minded opinions.
And by the way, the stars on the American flag are white.
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Call me homophobic, call me what you want. I'm an asshole but I'm a honest asshole at that. I don't care for religion at all, nor do I care for politics. But what I do care for on a grand scale is Logic, Morality, The Moral Compass, and Science.
Now before any of you go and try to compare gays to animals, let me add a little kicker to your thesis there.
Gays have thinking brains, opposable thumbs and they can talk (A little too damn much if you ask me). Animals don't really think, they go off trail and error. The only animal close to having opposable thumbs and thinking brains are chimps and apes. And the only difference between humans and apes is cooked food. Yea, watch Animal Planet, you'll learn that. So gays have no excuse other than being narcissistic cannibals, just like vegetarians.
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I don't even think you know what you're talking about with your scientific analogy here. Animals are much more intelligent than we give them credit for, and apes aren't the only species that can think. Most species of fish are self-aware and capable of problem-solving and learning. Elephants mourn their dead. Dolphins are arguably smarter than apes.
Also, chimps are species of ape -- apes are classified as the subfamily
hominoidae, and Animal Planet has been a load of crap since Steve Erwin died. Vegetarianism, unlike homosexuality, is a choice, not a psychological trait, and they have every right in the world to not eat meat if they so please, provided they're not forcing their doctrines on anyone else.
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I shouldn't even have to mention that marriage is between a Man and a woman at this point. Where the hell do you think CHILDREN come from!? You sure as hell can't rub two sticks together and make them, nor can you mash two tacos together and get em either. So what the hell?
This has been a message from Majaku, The God Damn Batman aka Black Cawk "It's not gonna suck it's self dammit"
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If we're going to bring nature into this, I should mention that children don't always result from a man and woman. In whiptailed lizards, several species that are made entirely of females, individuals have offspring alone, and stimulate their sexual organs by engaging in courtship behavior with other females. In short, lesbian lizards. Slugs and snails are generally both genders and they mate with others of the same species that share that trait.
Also, marriage isn't necessarily related to reproduction anyway -- it's a sociological matter. If it were solely related to marriage, we wouldn't have so many children these days born out of wedlock, nor would we allow women past menopause to marry. I don't see how that could possibly be used as an argument against gay marriage.
Good day sir.
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Lol it's not a basic human righ to get married. If they truly want to get married then they can go to another country but no, they insist on changing the sacred ideal of heterosexual marriage which, might I add has been like that since the beginning of the mankind. Obviously it's worked this far, why change it? I'm just mad there was not a "OH HELL NO!!!" Option on the poll.
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Marriage itself hasn't been around since the beginning of mankind. There's a lot of doubt that humans were even monogamous before the beginning of organized civilization, and the fact that many early cultures weren't monotheistic supports it. Many animals in nature, primates included, also behave in homosexual behavior.
Like I mentioned, though, if churches refuse to marry homosexuals, that's within the churchs' rights, as it may go against their religious beliefs. But marriage itself is not longer a sacred ideal.
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Marriage is intended to be a sacred bond between a man and a women as god made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So ya it would be changing that sacred idea and that states that they have right to marriage, I don't even think you should call it marriage of its not a man and a woman so I don't see how it helps you.
http://i.word.com/idictionary/marriage
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I don't believe in Adam and Eve, so why should I care?
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My question is simple, "Why should they?"
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Why shouldn't they is more so the question here. Gays are every bit as human as we are and should have a right to engage in the same social practices as us.
Side Note: About a month ago, I officially renounced my religious beliefs, in case anyone was wondering why I seem to suddenly be an atheist. My reasons are largely personal and will not be mentioned on the forums.