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OK maybe I was too blunt about it but I know what you are talking about, I was there with you back in the day when we were doing that and getting sets of gear, I'm sayin with a luck based system we have seen people with all focus not hit someone with 1500 dodge and someone with tons of dodge get hit non stop by someone with like 1200 hit rate I'm just saying if you wanted to mess around and still have fun and start a fighter if you had good % weapons and good m-def gear ticketed you would have a chance against some classes and for pve turtles go into kraken with no gear just speed weapons, then again it would suck getting everything from cell and kraken again but I will shut up, I am by no means an expert on pvp which is why I don't do it, I would just embarrass myself 
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You are absolutely right, only you are right with fighter v fighter. Gear is irrelevent, it is purely luck based, and some degree of ping is useful.
Just the other week in budokai I used a dodge pot and got hit and crit first time by a fighter with no focus gear.
Fighter vs SK is luck based too, regardless of what any1 says, Will I crit, wont I crit, will his life drain land, will his defence debuff land, will fear land, will bold land, will his stuns land. Will he crit me with bold.
Pure luck. Except the luck is stacked in favour of the SK.
A lot of everything comes down to luck, but you still gotta have the right gear and accessories in the first place, otherwise you stand no chance against, SK, turtle or Karma.
They really shud have fixed the broken success rate system.... ZZZ oh well.
Most fighters in the game win vs other fighters and lose to other PVP classes.
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