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November 4th, 2011
#11
ssj adds more dodge, hitrate and all
kaioken X2/3/4/5........and more. (can even go to kaioken x40). add crit attack so with kaioken you will do lot more crit then you do with ssj
but from what i heard crit is nerfed in taiwan so you can better use ssj
while in kr kaioken is more being used by people

Hmm okay, that's new.. to Tiwanese only?

and no its not. only in taiwan
that transformation pot was way long before also in kr

Last edited on November 4th, 2011 at 04:42 AM. Reason: Double Post
November 13th, 2011
#12
I'm lv 37 right now and I personally just use kaioken when I need to fight a super that has 2 or 3 backup mobs. I do this just because it helps me finish him off faster so I can get the hell out of there before any other mobs show up and I die.
November 13th, 2011
#13
Kioken is garbage. Your ep drains just as much as ssj along with ur lp draining too. If critical is that important to you just find gear that's boosts crit. Don't waist sp on kioken
November 13th, 2011
#14
actually if you get 3/3 on kaioken the drain is less than ssj buy far...and if you cant handle the lp drain why are you using it? my lp is fine twith kaioken and im human
November 14th, 2011
#15
i have kaioken 3/3 and it drains indeed less
i prefer use it above ssj
November 14th, 2011
#16
example condition:

u in CC/TMQ/Dungeons. u use ssj and die in that platform, u not have kaio. what u will gonna do, beside u must wait ur ssj back again?
November 14th, 2011
#17
Kaioken is a a solid choice. Whats the point of MA? Inflict high amount of damage and quickly and Kaioken pushes it to its max. Come on, if your hit rate is low as Fighter its because you don't wear anything that boosts it (arround 780~800). SSJ won't increase more than 200, is it really worth it? You can just wear CC Accessories for Wonder Majin as MA that gives 8 focus (arround 80 hit rate) x2 and you get the same boost... Note this is considering PvE situations. I personally use PvP build and don't have Kaioken, I'm pretty sure i kill stuff at CC faster than most of you would as super saiyan.
Another thing to consider is having a Karma in the party.
November 17th, 2011
#18
so basically kaioken is pretty good but if u look at the perspective of the big damage and fast kill i respect kaio for the crit though,but i made a test with a friend that had ssj and he used both high speed needle and super high speed needle, in kaioken X1 he dealt around 890 damage to level 38 mobs and he was 52 kidna low but his gear sucked in kaioken X7 though he did around 1196 with high speed needle though X7 was the last he could take for now and then in ssj he was dealing about 2798-3000 with high speed needle but i forgot how much he dealt with super high speed needle D:
November 17th, 2011
#19
lets say it actually different
in kr kaioken is definitely better
in taiwan ssj
and just because of he crit nerf
but i prefer kaioken in both
November 22nd, 2011
#20
sorry but how do I become SSJ I am lvl 48 and I don't get it