What do you suggest for PvP solo? I have soul in my build, but I guess I am gonna redo it..

Your build seems to be the best for my needs, thanks for the help. I didn't see the need in a maxed violence strike when all you get is 21% more dmg and 2 more seconds on an already 3 second stun. With all the other utility skills SK has 3 seconds seems more than long enough to continue my combo

Eastern101, you wanted a build that would benefit 5vs5 AND 1vs1.. and I presented one.

Tempest, your build -and no offense- really is just a mishmash of wasted SP's here and there without any great combo for neither 5vs5 nor 1vs1.

ShadowKiller, slash doesn't have KD at all, but are you sure that Cleave now gives you the KD ability as lvl 1 once more?

Trust me scrancher your suggestions are not going unnoticed,you seem very experienced and I more than appreciate the help. After looking into it more right now I'm still in between builds. The biggest factor being a maxed Violent slice or not, I'm almost positive the KD bug from cleave has been fixed at lvl 1 but i can't decide if I would rather have that KD or the KD of charging fist, I really need to choose one or the other. If I have both I won't be able to max violence strike without missing crucial points in other skills. And considering that solo PvE is really all I am able to do to level up the extra damage would be beneficial.

I'm so conflicted :(
And terrible at making decisions :)


Also: Is the maxed Draconic Curse really only a two point difference than the LVL 3?
Lvl 3: 557 spiritual defense 557 physical defense
Lvl 4: 559 spiritual defense 559 physical defense

Is that accurate? And if so, would that sp point be more beneficial somewhere else like a Lvl 1 hellzone grenade maybe?

I use this build and it has suited me very well. I was able to win 1v1 Solo Adult tournament, so I do recommend using this one for 1v1.


Exactly, use that extra point on Hellzone Grenade, as it is a great skill against fighters.

Well actually I think i'm just completely ****ed. After doing the adult quest I'm now lvl 31 and unable to reset my skills. I don't have the Zen for an action house one

It's fine pal, I just crafted together that build specifically to try and satisfy your needs and demands in terms of a solid 1vs1 build AND 5vs5 all-in-one.
It's quite true yes, the SP's for maxed Violent Slice could be better used in other skills, so it's really up to each individual.
If your choosing between either the Cleave KD or the Charching Fist KD at lvl 1, I'd deffinetly suggest you to get last mentioned one, seing as it's faster when it comes to actually applying the KD and get your opponent to bite the dust. Cleave however does more damage, so you'll have to chose between instant KD with next to zero damage, or a longer time consuming KD with higher damage.
I aren't too sure of the draconic curses defense degrade as it's been revamped and ages ago since I used it myself, but I can almost guarantee you that it's more than a 2 defense difference at maxed.
I think in any case, putting 1 skill in Hellzone grenade would be a waste, unless you truly lack high hit rate.

well thanks for all the help but it looks like i have to delete my lvl 31 and start over.

lesson learned. never wait until after 30 to reset skills.

No problems, and good luck with the new character of yours!

With that build you are using 1 of 3 possible knock downs, how does that help/hurt you?