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Ah, science...




See, the issue with giving a character Super Saiyan 3 is that it would imply that they're unusually special to be able to use it. Only a handful of characters can actually use the form, and of those that can, one was training in the afterlife and another was a fusion, clearly more powerful than a normal character. The fact that your character is young and clearly less experienced than Goku makes them in danger of being Lt. Mary Sue, and though that trait alone isn't enough to make her one, it can be an issue with people who are criticizing her.

Being turned into a Saiyan could complicate matters further, as being turned into another race could complicate matters further. For one thing, readers might suspect that it's an act of wish fulfillment with your character as a stand in for yourself. For another, it's just another common trait of a Mary Sue, as outlined on the limitus test.

Of course, it doesn't always mean that a character like that is a Mary Sue. Sari from Transformers Animated winds up gaining Cybertronian powers (due to the fact that she's sort of half Cybertronian... it's complicated and not explained particularly well) in a sort of upgrade, but it's obvious that she's probably not meant to be a stand-in for the writers, as she's an eight-year-old girl, and she has enough character flaws such as her inexperience to keep her from falling into that territory. That being said, I still prefer her as a human because she's one of the few good human sidekicks the series has seen...

This all being said, her power could also be a point that's important, as having a character that's too strong is generally a no-no. When you have to ask yourself whether or not they're stronger than the main character, (unless the main character isn't that strong) it's generally a bad sign.

I'm really pretentious about the power thing in my own writing. For one, I don't make power all that relevant in things I've written myself. Fighting is more of a skill/luck based thing. The deity-like entities I've come up with are all glass cannons, and though they're capable of feats greater than human beings, it's entirely confined to their reality-bending (or magical~) abilities. Their actual bodies are frail and as a result break and bruise far more easily than a human being's would. I think I'll leave the nigh-omnipotent beings comic books and religion.

Yeah I can see where you're coming with this. I took that Mary Sue test for Sapha with some of the current information and got a "29" meaning I definitely have to work with her, but she's at least not a Mary Sue (barely).

Anyway, thanks for the help. This will really come in handy.

Mary Sues... Ew. Had to deal with people leaping at my characters branding the Mary Sue sticker without understanding what it means.

Triple, regardless of the changes in the end, will only have 2 transformations she can voluntarily use, Super Saiyan and "Magic Super Saiyan".
And she will always reach SSJ3 momentarily when absorbing an attack too powerful for her, although methods for such feats are being explored and rewritten.

I'd still like to hear a non-troll opinion on Lace;

i would have put the capsule button on her boob like in negima to restart chachamaru on her killing spree after she got embaressed about liking negi he had to push one of her boobs to restart also i am pervy and its hilarious when a decent guy is asked to do something pervy

also your really good at art we have to draw characters from front and side, backgrounds and foregrounds and then upload it to the computer for 3d modeling yet im no good at art im gonna fail this part of the course

As for Lace, here is her original back story and the original renders I made.
I need to update this as it uses my old shaders, but the backstory is mostly the same.



And the CC tattoos.



Any and all energy based attacks will form between the horns instead of in her hands, and she can control various CC products using them as well.
She is more robotic than human, but she has the emotions of a human.


Also, aturntable of Triple I made a while back. Will remake it after all the changes are sorted out.
Click Here!
It uses 50 colours and was exported as Flash, so that I could post it on DeviantART.

My actual animation is smoother;

I'm guessing you have a liking for Androids?

Yes.
They seemed interesting and after the Cell saga they really weren't explored any further.
The reworked Triple will likely be a half Saiyan or a full blood sent to a world that specializes in magic or something.

Although the main reason was because Lace and Triple were meant to have their friendship started because they were both Androids. That was the thing they had in common to kick start the friendship.

Magic...yeah...now that I really look at it I don't really see it working. I know that magic exists in DBZ, but this kind of magic...it seems to be taking things to the extreme don't you think?

Not really.
Ki is the physical force, but in most media there is also the mental force, Mana.
While Mana isn't mentioned in Dragon Ball, I'm sure Bibidi, Babadi and Baba all use Mana.

I'd say that if you can keep an open mind then Magic is fine.
I mean why not, until Roshi used a Kamehameha Wave, the idea of shooting energy beams from the hands was alien, and it took it a while before it became the norm.

Yeah, but the rules of magic weren't explained very well either. I mean the only sources we have to work with are the Dragonballs, Baba, and the wizards. In fact, we don't even know what the source of their magic is or if it has limits (Baba could only float (which is a norm in DB/DBZ/GT), see the future (this required her crystal ball), and travel between the living world and after life. I know the series left it open a lot, but at the same time it left us with little to work with.