i might say something wrong because i didnt played yet game after this patch but here it goes:
Turtles was best for PVE because of there Super kamehameha and huge Crit and it also was good at PvP
they lack of strong single target skill but they have some..... but it depend what kind of game you willing to expect from turtles to be Hero who kills alot mobs at once or try learn other Single target skill's wich completely change your game style and lower you power ( well sometimes it comes that some of those hybrids wich is not popular become good builds)
Fighters dont have Big dmg AOE skills for PVE(mass) well sorry they have few like final flash or big bang atack and one Phisycal skill with pole to use but if you choose them to max it will ruin your Build for good PvP they more concentrated at single target dps same as swordmaster (fighter more for bleed dmg and dodge,Swordmaster is still strongest single target dps class talking about MA or other human class i think :/ )
Sorry if i told or didnt explained anything wich you already knew:/
Last edited on September 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 AM.
Reason: Double Post